【美国JRs之声】遭遇夺冠瓶颈，美球迷热议杜兰特也处于詹姆斯当初的境地了吗？
Has Kevin Durant has reached that point where what he does doesn't really feel special anymore because he is so consistent at doing it? (self.nba)阿杜已经到了由于自身稳定性过强，而没法再让人对他出色表现高潮的地步了？The dude is averaging 28 , 8 and 5 with 50/38/89 shooting splits and all anyone wants to take about is Westbrook for MVP. Like do people not see what KD is doing? It almost feels like Durant's greatness is expected so unless he is having a once in a lifetime type of peak season(like his MVP year), no one notices. Lebron also received this treatment some years.阿杜场均28+8+5，命中率50% 三分38% 罚球89%，而大家想的都是威少该拿MVP，难道都没看到的表现吗？感觉大家对杜兰特的出色表现是预料中的一样， 除非他再次打出千载难逢的巅峰级表现（就像阿杜MVP赛季那样），否则就没人注意他。 &勒布朗有几年里受到的也是这种待遇。------------------------------------------------[–]Hawksjumboponcho 181 指標 2小時前&Think people are getting to that "That's great but where's the ring?" point with Durant人们已经到了对杜兰特是这种态度的地步了：“阿杜很牛逼啊，但他有（冠军）戒指吗？”[–][WAS] Kelly Oubrestarrybubble 66 指標 2小時前&yea, I dont think he's proposing any time soon是的，我不认为杜兰特短期之内会求婚&[–]WarriorsTheCurseofVanGundy 28 指標 2小時前&Westbrook can't wait for him forever!威少不能总这么等下去吧！[–][GSW]Marreese SpeightsI_messed_up_bad 40 指標 2小時前&（阿杜09年发的推特： “@ 你真是个gay ，哈哈哈”）[–]SpursWirelessSurvivor 1 指標 1小時前&Yeah, I think he broke up with Rachel Demita. I'm not sure though, I'm not knowledgeable in NBA girlfriends.是的，杜兰特跟瑞秋分手了，不过我不确定，有关NBA球员女友方面我并没有太多猛料。（注：Rachel Demita 2k女主播）[–]youdumbro 1 指標 1小時前&wtf she is soooooooooooooo fine..........................................................................................but i thought KD was dating a wnba player?神马？瑞秋真美啊。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。我还以为杜兰特约的是WNBA球员呢？[–]Bulletslightningman26 3 指標 53 minutes ago&they were engaged but broke up a while ago阿杜和瑞秋订婚过，但是前不久分手了------------------------------------------------[–]shanmustafa 42 points 3 hours ago&we start taking players for granted, but him not winning a title has something to do with it我们总是把球员的表现当作是理所当然的，不过这跟杜兰特没有夺冠也确实有关系。[–]Rocketsgibisee4 9 points an hour ago&Exactly, he's so elite, that the fact he hasn't won a title counts against him. No one says this for&James Harden&or Westbrook because they aren't as good where they're supposed to win rings.没错，杜兰特是精英级球员，没有夺冠确实成为了他的黑点。或者威少就没人他们没冠军，因为他们还没有强到应该夺冠的地步。[–][OKC]Anthony MorrowRussellDurant 43 指標 2小時前&Kd is a quiet superstar. Dudes a killer but you don't realize till he plays your team. In the playoffs it will show杜兰特是个安静的超巨。这家伙是个杀手，只有他在跟你的主队交手时你才会意识到这点。 在季后赛里这点会展现出来的。[–]Rocketsbetaassassin 4 指標 1小時前&Serious question, if Durant leaves will you change your username?平胸而论，如果杜兰特离开，你会把你的ID改了吗？&&（楼上的ID是：RusellDurant）[–][OKC]Anthony MorrowRussellDurant 28 指標 1小時前&If Durant leaves, I'll leave the world如果杜兰特离开，我就告别人世。[–]PelicansBigEarl139 77 points 2 hours ago&It happens to pretty much every special player. You can't plateau as an NBA great. Because after that first special season people don't see it as special anymore.That's why you still hear people say stuff like "Lebron never fully lived up to the hype" or this "Westbrook is better than Durant" stuff.Lebron averaged 27-7-7 as a sophomore. He's pretty much averaged that every single season since then. But since he's done it so much people just expect it. If he dropped to 25-5-5 people would be saying he's no longer great.&这种事在任何特殊的球员身上都有发生。 作为NBA的伟大球员你不能波澜不惊，因为在第一个惊艳赛季之后，人们就不会觉得你的表现有多么特别了。这就是为什么你仍然会听到有人说“勒布朗从来没有完全兑现他的上限”，或者“威少比杜兰特强”之类的话。勒布朗在2年级的时候就能交出场均27+7+7的数据了。从那之后他几乎每个赛季都能打出这种场均数据。但因为勒布朗做到的次数太多，人们已经觉得这是意料中的了。如果勒布朗掉到25+5+5，人们就会说他巅峰已过了。[–]kjhdgfd 37 points 2 hours ago&Wait, someone's said Lebron never fully lived up to the hype and meant it? Damn.I can hardly think of a player who more completely lived up to the hype ever.&等等，竟然有人说勒布朗从没有完全兑现他的上限？卧槽我都想不出还有哪些能更完全兑现上限的球员了。[–]Knicksitsahmemario 3 points an hour ago*&LeBron, Shaq and Jordan probably lost a few MVPs because they make excellence routine. It's like yeah you're still dominant but show me something else.勒布朗，沙克，还有很可能就因为他们一成不变的出色而丢掉过一些MVP。&就像是"没错，你是很有统治力，但能给我整点儿新鲜花样不？“-----------------------------------------------[–][GSW] Andre IgoudalazzMojaveExpress 18 points 3 hours ago&Westbrook's game looks cooler, so people think he's better.I would compare it to some of the LeBron vs. Kobe debates of 5 or 6 years ago. Where LeBron was probably a more productive basketball player, but Kobe was very flashy (while still being very productive, don't hurt me).Plus, KD has definitely alienated the media, don't underestimate the effect of the media on his public perception. If they don't like a guy, they can cause opinions to sour. Like Kareem vs.&Magic.So that's 2 reasons why he gets slept on.威少的比赛看上去更酷，所以人们认为威少更强。我想把他们拿来跟5-6年前勒布朗vs的讨论做对比。勒布朗当时可能是更多产的球员，而科比则是非常浮华的表现（当然科比也非常多产，别喷我）。加上阿杜无疑跟媒体的关系是疏远的，别低估媒体的对阿杜公众形象的作用，如果他们不喜欢一个人，他们就会来酸阿杜。就像是vs师那样。所以这就是杜兰特被忽视的2个原因。[–]kjhdgfd 2 points 2 hours ago&It's not just Westbrook's game looking cooler though. He legitimately is doing everything at an astoundingly high level that it's basically a coin flip as to who is really 'better'. On any given night it can be either of them. Basically just boils down to your own definition of what you value or what you think is a better contribution to the game.并不是威少的球风更酷的原因吧。威少在所有方面都打出了惊人的高水平，他和阿杜谁更强只是55开的关系。 在任何一晚的最好球员都可能是他们两其中一人，所以就看你怎么定义谁对比赛的贡献价值更大了。[–][GSW] Andre IgoudalazzMojaveExpress 9 points an hour ago&He has never shot from outside at a high level or played defense at a high level. At least not astoundingly high. So not everything.威少从没有在外线有过高水准的投射，也没有在防守端有过高水准的表现。至少不是那种惊人级别的高水准，所以威少并不是在所有方面都是高水平。[–]BullsTrenAndJerrys 20 points 2 hours ago&Durant is clearly better than Westbrook. I don't see it as a coin flip at all.杜兰特明显比威少强，我根本不觉得这是55开的关系。[–][OKC]Russell WestbrookA_Lax_Nerd 17 points 3 hours ago&There was a line I heard the other night that went something like: "Westbrook breaks into your house, wakes you up and lets you know he's taking your stuff. Kd sneaks in, robs you blind and you never knew he was there."我那天听过一句话：“威少是那种闯进你的房间，吵醒你，让你知道他抢走了你的东西。而杜兰特是偷偷潜入进来，在你眼皮底下打劫了你，你却还不知道他来过“[–][NYK]Carmelo Anthonythemariokarters 15 points 3 hours ago&He's incredible to watch. The fact that he's casually dropped 20+ in 60+ straight games is just a consequence of how amazing of a scorer he is看杜兰特打球的感觉太逆天了。他轻松地连续60场比赛砍下20+得分，这就是他逆天级得分能力的体现。[–]TrailBlazersno_no_no_yesss 42 points 3 hours ago&I'm sure no one in OKC wants to hear this but I would be fascinated to see what Durant could do on a team built around him specifically. I think the guy could average 35 a game, and not in a "shoot-your-team-out-of-the-game" kind of way.我确定俄克拉荷马的人不想听到这种说法， 但我真的特想看到杜兰特在一支只围绕他构建的球队里打球。我感觉他能打出场均35分的表现，而且不是以那种“暴击自己球队”的方式。[–]SupersonicsSportslegend 34 points 2 hours ago&We saw what it would be like when Westbrook got hurt. He's the MVP.在威少受伤的时候我们不是已经看到过那样的阿杜了， 他就是MVP。------------------------------------------------[–]LakersRicoh06 9 points 3 hours ago&LeBron still is receiving this treatment, up until the last couple of week since raised his game to the next level. I think KD has also been at such a high level now that people under appreciate him also, Westbrook is having an amazing season for a PG so the spotlights just off him right now, even though he's playing really well.勒布朗仍然在受到这种待遇，直到几周前勒布朗开始发力打出了更高水准。我觉得杜兰特也处于尽管表现非常出色而受到人们低估的地步了。威少作为控卫正在打出逆天级的赛季表现，所以关注度也不在阿杜身上，虽然阿杜打得非常好。[–]Pelicansgt1master_ike[S] 9 points 3 hours ago&For Lebron , I remember a point(I believe his last year in Miami) when his career averages were 27/7/7 and his shooting splits were like 49/34/72. Anyone putting those numbers up in a year let alone for the first 800 games of their career would be getting top 10 status of all time. But Lebron just gets, well he needs help to win a ring. Smh, every one needs help to win a ring.对勒布朗来说，（我记得是他在的最后一个赛季），乐邦生涯场均数据一度达到了27+7+7，投射命中率49%+34%+72%。任何一个在生涯前800场比赛里能打出这种数据的人都会被看做是历史前10级的表现，而勒布朗得到的只是“他必须得有帮手才能拿冠军”的评论。我就不理解了，谁拿冠军不需要帮手？[–]76ersambassadorodman 3 points 2 hours ago&He LeBron'd阿杜乐邦化了[–][LAL]Kobe BryantSnackoff 9 points 3 hours ago&Durant has already proven himself in the regular season and shown how historically great he is. People want to see hardware now. Especially after he got to the finals as a 23 year old.杜兰特已经在常规赛证明过自己了，展现了他历史级能力有多么伟大。现在人们想看干货了，特别是在阿杜23岁就杀进过总决赛之后。[–]Rocketsgibisee4 6 points an hour ago&It's funny, a few years ago I read an article about the 86&Rockets&with&Ralph Sampson&and Hakeem. The author compared them not going back to the finals for 8 years to the OKC team that had just made the finals not going back until Durant was in his 30s. Both teams had just so much young talent. They were so dominant in their conference with the only obstacle being an ageing dynasty (Lakers&in 86/Spurs&then). At the time it seemed like an interesting way to show something that was very unlikely. But now, with GSW rising and the&Spurs&having come back, it really seems like it might actually happen.这很有意思，几年前我读过一篇文章，有关拉尔夫桑普森和大梦所在的86年，那支火箭在进了总决赛后长达8年都未能重回总决赛（直到94年）。当时雷霆刚刚进过决赛，作者就将雷霆拿来和火箭做对比，认为杜兰特要到30多岁才能重回总决赛。 &当时的火箭和（刚进过总决赛的）雷霆一样都是年轻富有天赋。他们在分区极具统治力，唯一的阻碍就是正在老化的王朝球队（火箭对应当时86年， 雷霆对应当时的）。 在当时那篇文章说出这种可能性不大的对比很有意思， 但是现在看来，面对崛起的和马刺的回归， （雷霆阿杜长期无缘总决赛）可能正在应验了。------------------------------------------------（翻译题，谈杜兰特的得分能力）He was an ankle sprain away from (probably) scoring 20 straight in 75 games and every game this season. To your point, people don't understand how stupid that is. It's like "Oh Durant is a great scorer&of course&he scores 20 points every game!" but no one considers how there are only around 25 guys even averaging 20 points a game.Think about it: If you're averaging like, 22 points a night, that means that some nights you might have 30, but some nights you might have 12 or 14 or 15. And even though you don't always hit 20 points you're still one of the best 15 scorers in the NBA. KD is averaging just 28 a game, but he has scored at least 20 points in&every single game this season. The odds in the modern NBA of playing 80 games in a season and never having enough of an "off night" to where you don't hit 20 points&on a team that is going to win 55 games with another guy that is putting up 24 a game&are so ridiculously low it just doesn't make statistical sense.There are so many shooting lines that you can come up with that result in less than 20 points a game that seem perfectly normal for KD to put up on any given night.8/20 from the field, 1/3 from 3, 3/4 from FT: 19 points7/16 from the field, 2/6 from 3, 3/3 from FT: 19 points6/14 from the field, 1/5 from 3, 6/7 from FT: 19 pointsLike, those are all perfectly acceptable shooting lines for the best player on most teams in the league, but Durant has produced more points than that on almost always equal or better efficiency every game this season.He also moved into 3rd all time in career ppg behind just Wilt and MJ this season and he's doing it on 48/38/88 shooting splits. He also has a chance to be the first player since MJ to put up 28/8/5 in a season.Unfortunately, Steph is more exciting and putting up the better season, so we take KD for granted. People do the same thing with LeBron basically every year now.微信公众号：ChinaReddit，还处于成长之中~希望能够得到你们更多的改善建议微博：虎扑美国JRs之声：
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这是阿杜的第9个赛季，按时间上算相当于2012年的詹姆斯。真的不年轻了
从总冠军戒指 扯到结婚戒指 扯到瑞秋 顺便上了个福利
美国JRS的套路也是棒棒哒
等等，我阿杜上过2KTV女神？
最后那段还真是...大梦也是年级轻轻就进过总决赛了，那之后长达8年没能冲出西部，阿杜难道要到2020年才能再回总决夺冠？
Rachel Demita不说了 ，买营养快线去了
能让阿杜放弃威少的，只能是另一个巨星或者一组巨星，从阿杜接受各方面访谈中可以看出，阿杜是一个对天赋非常看重的巨星
阿杜这个年龄，这个千年老二的帽子，让他只认冠军，而且只认最后的总冠军；尤其是阿杜早就品尝过分区冠军，咀嚼过总亚军的苦楚；赢球才是他的第一要务，别的因素他要，但是请往后排
想抢阿杜？先看看7月1号自由市场大门打开的时候，你的球队里有什么准备好的成熟天赋去勾引阿杜吧
而不是去糊弄阿杜：“你来了我们再找谁谁谁一起来”要知道，自由市场的大门一打开
就像前年的詹姆斯一样，除了那些坚定续约母队的，别的腕儿都是等他阿杜做好决定再挪地方
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杜兰特+威少，感觉就是典型的1+1＜2。两个人都很厉害，也很多人喜欢，但是总是感觉两人在一起，就总是无法发挥最极致的实力。帮主的后三连，帮主为主二爷为付，湖人三连，奥尼尔超bug科比为付，湖人二连，科比为主家嫂为付，热火二连LBJ为主韦德为付。都是有人去当一个合格的二当家，这点在现在的雷霆，看不出感觉
KG曾对老詹说过，忠诚有时候可能会害了你
阿杜，你自己权衡
威少的数据让人觉得他更全面更像是个mvp 但是需要统治比赛的时候 大家总会找杜兰特
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铁杜没有冠军的黑点会一直在，即使去别的队组团也会被黑。还是在俄村圆梦吧。但是现在竞技状态不如mvp赛季的。最好的西布没遇上最好的铁杜
还是觉得这两个人在一起打球，谁都不能发挥的更好。
威少应该配一个格里芬这样的球员，打反击，快节奏。阵地落位立刻开始背打。这样联盟大多数球队都会限于天赋水平很难掌控比赛。
杜兰特应该配合能够稳定控球的防守型后卫。如今在雷霆，他依然还要长期控球的原因，不正是因为威少控球不稳定吗。如今SHH还有很多人说杜兰特应该减少控球的，说失误多的。
这实在是一叶障目不见泰山。你为什么要让杜兰特持球过半场啊？赛季开始的时候雷霆不是这么打的.结果雷霆三连胜之后战术就开始崩溃，KD边缘化，球队三连败，杜十五之名就从此开始。
问题就在于，多诺万为了解决KD边缘化，球队战术被破坏的问题，就让他开始持球过半场。实际上杜兰特如今就是一个带内线防守的分位。
那个时候我就在雷区发帖说，
这不可能是一个长法子。
你让KD持球过半场，就是在依赖KD的天赋。
雷霆球迷应该记得杜兰特在打勇士那场的关键失误被一哥抢断。为什么？
一到关键时刻，对手根本不可能让一个两米一十的人轻松持球过半场的。KD可以运球，可以投篮，可以做球场上一切的事情，但是他需要空间。这种空间更包含了处理球的时间。关键时刻，八秒必须过半场，别人光抓住这一点可以把你压的死死的。别说勇士，现在雷霆和快船打七场， 你运气再好都赢不了。
KD为什么失误多？因为他一直想着改变，可是，错误不在他身上，他越变打得就会越差。从他进联盟，他身上就写着得分手的标志。他要做的，不是像詹姆斯那样掌控全队，而是用一己之力改变比赛。他有着全联盟最好的单打水平，却只有胳膊特的场均控球次数。当他打出自己的时候，队友才会自然而然的变好，才不会出现队友离开了雷霆变得更好的情况。
可是呢，雷霆还有一个人也很想接管比赛，那是一个一米9的控卫。然而依赖突破得分的威少，篮下的手感可以说并不是联盟顶级。这个问题无比致命，比他不能够很好的掌控节奏，不断的在关键时刻进攻犯规都要可怕。篮球，打到最后你还是要扔出去的，你篮板抢得再好，突破再快，力量再强，你命中率却不高，关键时刻你就无法驾驭比赛。
杜兰特能为这只雷霆队做的东西几乎都做光了，按说表现这么稳定的一个球员，所在的球队应该无比稳定才对。
可情况却恰恰相反。
KD，真的应该抛下兄弟情，好好和威少谈一谈，而不是让威少作他自己。自己慢慢改变，却越来越无所适从。
最近看的雷霆比赛不多了。赢掘金也没有什么意义。
弱队但凡有点心气的，雷霆都不好打。
确实，球迷和媒体常常把超巨已经非常优秀的表现视为日常，稍稍有一点波动就难免遭到口诛笔伐。
对阿杜如此、对詹姆斯如此、对科比如此，将来两三个赛季当库里能维持这个赛季类似的高效将被认为理所当然，如果稍有下滑就可以想象到时的舆论。
一定程度上，对超巨们太不公平了，我当然认可你到了那个位置就应该做出符合那个位置的美妙事情，但是持续的优秀甚至超优秀也是应该无条件给予支持的。
举个例子，三连冠厉害，卫冕厉害，马刺都没能做到，然而马刺也有不少冠军，最可贵的是连续20年都处于一个高效的水准。
如果换算成球员呢？如果一个超巨能打出98分或者99分的赛季，那么其他很多个能保持在90-95之间分数的高效赛季，难道就应该忽视，应该被认为理所应当么？
一定程度上，我觉得持续稳定，应该获得不输前者的掌声。
我那天听过一句话：“威少是那种闯进你的房间，吵醒你，让你知道他抢走了你的东西。而杜兰特是偷偷潜入进来，在你眼皮底下打劫了你，你却还不知道他来过“
这就是喜欢KD的原因。。。
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He was an ankle sprain away from (probably) scoring 20 straight in 75 games and every game this season. To your point, people don't understand how stupid that is. It's like "Oh Durant is a great scorer of course he scores 20 points every game!" but no one considers how there are only around 25 guys even averaging 20 points a game.
Think about it: If you're averaging like, 22 points a night, that means that some nights you might have 30, but some nights you might have 12 or 14 or 15. And even though you don't always hit 20 points you're still one of the best 15 scorers in the NBA. KD is averaging just 28 a game, but he has scored at least 20 points in every single game this season. The odds in the modern NBA of playing 80 games in a season and never having enough of an "off night" to where you don't hit 20 points on a team that is going to win 55 games with another guy that is putting up 24 a game are so ridiculously low it just doesn't make statistical sense.
There are so many shooting lines that you can come up with that result in less than 20 points a game that seem perfectly normal for KD to put up on any given night.
8/20 from the field, 1/3 from 3, 3/4 from FT: 19 points
7/16 from the field, 2/6 from 3, 3/3 from FT: 19 points
6/14 from the field, 1/5 from 3, 6/7 from FT: 19 points
Like, those are all perfectly acceptable shooting lines for the best player on most teams in the league, but Durant has produced more points than that on almost always equal or better efficiency every game this season.
He also moved into 3rd all time in career ppg behind just Wilt and MJ this season and he's doing it on 48/38/88 shooting splits. He also has a chance to be the first player since MJ to put up 28/8/5 in a season.
Unfortunately, Steph is more exciting and putting up the better season, so we take KD for granted. People do the same thing with LeBron basically every year now.
要不是那场脚踝扭伤的比赛，杜兰特就已经连续75场球得20分以上，这个赛季没有一场低于这个数据。大家会说：“杜十五得分很强啊，每场都能得20分。”但是得想想，全联盟也就差不多25个人每场平均能得20分
换个角度考虑：比如说你场均得分是22分，也就是说有些比赛能得到30分，有些比赛只能的12、14或者15分这样。这样的话即使不能每场都得20分以上，你也是联盟里前15的得分手。在现在的联盟里，在一支55胜的队伍里，打了80场比赛还没有一场发挥不佳低于20分，论可能性来说这太低了，何况队伍里还有一个场均24分的威震天。
得不到20分的可能情况太多了，以下这些不够20分的情况如果发生，也算是杜兰特在比赛中看起来还算正常的数据：
20投8中，三分3投1中，罚球4罚3中，19分；
16投7中，三分6投2中，罚球3罚3中，19分；
14投6中，三分5投1中，罚球7罚6中，还是19分。
这些表现都是联盟中顶尖球员还算可行的表现，但是杜兰特本赛季每场比赛都打出了超出这种效率的表现。
杜兰特的场均得分已经达到了历史第三，仅次于两万和帮主，这赛季的命中率也是48/38/88，现在他还有希望做到帮主之后第一个赛季28+8+5的人。可惜，这赛季库里打得更加出色，所以我们认为杜兰特打出这种表现也是理所当然的。
每年詹姆斯基本都是“理所应当”。P.S. 感谢楼主@OPSP1203的指正
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阿杜如果生涯晚期离开能不能享受到纳什在太阳的待遇呢。
KD，u can go.
树挪死，人挪活
去绿凯吧
引用5楼 @ 发表的:
说杜兰特处于詹姆斯当年的境地不太准确
毕竟詹姆斯去热火前基本上是数据爆炸的联盟第一人
所以拿不到冠军压力尤其大
杜兰特貌似还没到这种程度
我觉得已经做到过了，只是常规赛阿杜没有什么可再证明了
mvp赛季的数据不够爆炸力吗？不是当时的第一人？&就算是这个赛季的阿杜28+8+5，不逆天吗，上一个这数据要看乔丹了，只是因为库里的表现逆天抢了太多注意力，不代表阿杜表现不够爆炸力。
就好比勇士可能破73胜，但马刺的战绩也可能破69胜，也是历史级的，不是最耀眼的不代表没好到那个地步。
不觉得大家对阿杜都太不公平了吗，以前阿杜千年老二的时候，大家只会盯着他的防守黑他，认为他只是个刷子。如今阿杜进攻实力不减，还打磨出防守、传球，变全能，人们却都觉得习以为常，好像这就是他该这样的。反观威少，虽然打球暴力激情，但是防守却不那么好，关键时刻处理球还不够明智，但人们却只注意威少逆天的数据而觉得威少强过杜兰特。
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不是威少数据不够变态，是对球处理和关键时刻的控场能力不够理想，威少数据可以再下降些，只要他防守和对球处理加强些，也会比现在对球队更好，如果只是数据再变态些，还是无法对赢球有帮助的话，那最多也就是大O三双赛季没进季后赛那种情况，并不能说明杜兰特不如威少
我所说的变态也不是单纯的数据上的变态，任何数据都是客观能力的反应，既然维斯布鲁克能够打出这样的数据，证明他现在已经有这样的能力，既然他在具备了这么些能力的时候，再把细节和对球队的掌控再做好了，那么那时候的他不再是现在的维斯布鲁克了，而是另外一个历史级超级控卫了
当然，从目前来看，维斯布鲁克要想再进一步还需要时间和机遇，而杜兰特已经要面对一次可以让自己职业生涯发生质变的选择，最后的选择权还是在杜兰特的手中，是要追求更好的队友然后冲击冠军还是留守母队再一次冲击，他做任何的选择都是可以的，对杜兰特最大的影响莫过于外界的评论罢了，但是最后的胜利或许会改变一部分人的看法，正如LBJ一样...
我杜的翻译题由我来组成：
（翻译题，谈杜兰特的得分能力）
He was an ankle sprain away from (probably) scoring 20 straight in 75 games and every game this season. To your point, people don't understand how stupid that is. It's like "Oh Durant is a great scorer of course he scores 20 points every game!" but no one considers how there are only around 25 guys even averaging 20 points a game.
Think about it: If you're averaging like, 22 points a night, that means that some nights you might have 30, but some nights you might have 12 or 14 or 15. And even though you don't always hit 20 points you're still one of the best 15 scorers in the NBA. KD is averaging just 28 a game, but he has scored at least 20 points in every single game this season. The odds in the modern NBA of playing 80 games in a season and never having enough of an "off night" to where you don't hit 20 points on a team that is going to win 55 games with another guy that is putting up 24 a game are so ridiculously low it just doesn't make statistical sense.
There are so many shooting lines that you can come up with that result in less than 20 points a game that seem perfectly normal for KD to put up on any given night.
8/20 from the field, 1/3 from 3, 3/4 from FT: 19 points
7/16 from the field, 2/6 from 3, 3/3 from FT: 19 points
6/14 from the field, 1/5 from 3, 6/7 from FT: 19 points
Like, those are all perfectly acceptable shooting lines for the best player on most teams in the league, but Durant has produced more points than that on almost always equal or better efficiency every game this season.
He also moved into 3rd all time in career ppg behind just Wilt and MJ this season and he's doing it on 48/38/88 shooting splits. He also has a chance to be the first player since MJ to put up 28/8/5 in a season.
Unfortunately, Steph is more exciting and putting up the better season, so we take KD for granted. People do the same thing with LeBron basically every year now.
若非因为脚踝伤势而缺席的比赛，本赛季的75场球我杜（应该）都可以拿个20来分。至于你的观点，大家都没意识到那到底有多蠢。就好象说“哦，杜兰特是一个出色的得分手，所以他每晚拿个20分是理所当然的”但却没有人怀疑为何整个联盟也只有25个球员，整个赛季下来场均20分。
仔细想一下吧：以场均22分来说，某些比赛你会拿个30分，但另外一些比赛，可能只拿个12、14或者15。即使你没办法每晚拿个20分，你依然是整个NBA最好的15个得分手之一。我杜场均28分，但他本赛季的每一场比赛中都至少拿20分。这在现代NBA里一支全年拿下55胜，同时队伍里还有我龟场均拿个24分的队伍里面，一个完整的赛季80场比赛，却从来没有因为某晚的“手凉”而拿不到20分的几率即使从统计学上来说，也是低的离谱的。
随便想想也知道，低于20分的数据有这么多的可能性，对于KD来说任何一个晚上也是完全正常的。
8 / 20的命中率，1 / 3的3分，3 / 4的罚球：19分
7 / 16的命中率，2 / 6的3分，3 / 3的罚球：19分
6 / 14的命中率，1 / 5的3分，6 / 7的罚球：19分
这样的数据对于全联盟大部分队伍的顶级球员来说完全是无可挑剔的，但杜兰特却总是可以在维持甚至更高效率地拿下更高分。
杜兰特亦上升至仅此于张两万跟老流氓之后的场均得分第三，同时本赛季还保持了48／38／88投射命中率。他还有机会成为自老流氓之后，第一个球员场均获得28分，8篮板，5助攻。
不幸的是，库日天本赛季打出了更令人兴奋和更好的赛季，所以我们认为KD的这一切都是理所当然的，好比无论勒布朗打出怎样变态数据，人们也早已习以为常一样。
说杜兰特处于詹姆斯当年的境地不太准确
毕竟詹姆斯去热火前基本上是数据爆炸的联盟第一人
所以拿不到冠军压力尤其大
杜兰特貌似还没到这种程度
引用50楼 @ 发表的:
这标题不敢fnk同！
话说詹姆斯当年身边要是有个威少这种级别的队友，
相信他绝不会远走迈阿密！
很赞同，骑士一期的詹姆斯比现在的阿杜还惨，最好的队友居然是小莫。看看绿军三巨头，看看马刺有GDP，看看科比有联盟最好内线三塔，詹姆斯怎能不眼红？黑子说詹姆斯抱团，意思就是“谁都可以有超级明星队友，就詹姆斯不可以有”。
树挪死，人挪活
去绿凯吧
最后那段还真是...大梦也是年级轻轻就进过总决赛了，那之后长达8年没能冲出西部，阿杜难道要到2020年才能再回总决夺冠？
follow your heart
说杜兰特处于詹姆斯当年的境地不太准确
毕竟詹姆斯去热火前基本上是数据爆炸的联盟第一人
所以拿不到冠军压力尤其大
杜兰特貌似还没到这种程度
这是阿杜的第9个赛季，按时间上算相当于2012年的詹姆斯。真的不年轻了
又是一阵腥风血雨。。
Rachel Demita不说了 ，买营养快线去了
难道这就是三分包丢失的原因？
杜兰特已经在常规赛证明过自己了，展现了他历史级能力有多么伟大。现在人们想看干货了，特别是在阿杜23岁就杀进过总决赛之后。季后赛的舞台充满了未知数，杜兰特创造历史就在今朝。去年詹姆斯一个人扛起球队，最终未能逆袭。今年杜兰特伤病回来，如果带领球队，最终夺冠，那么历史上会有杜兰特浓墨的一笔。加油
引用5楼 @ 发表的:
说杜兰特处于詹姆斯当年的境地不太准确
毕竟詹姆斯去热火前基本上是数据爆炸的联盟第一人
所以拿不到冠军压力尤其大
杜兰特貌似还没到这种程度
我觉得已经做到过了，只是常规赛阿杜没有什么可再证明了
mvp赛季的数据不够爆炸力吗？不是当时的第一人？&就算是这个赛季的阿杜28+8+5，不逆天吗，上一个这数据要看乔丹了，只是因为库里的表现逆天抢了太多注意力，不代表阿杜表现不够爆炸力。
就好比勇士可能破73胜，但马刺的战绩也可能破69胜，也是历史级的，不是最耀眼的不代表没好到那个地步。
等等，我阿杜上过2KTV女神？
从总冠军戒指 扯到结婚戒指 扯到瑞秋 顺便上了个福利
美国JRS的套路也是棒棒哒
是的，我认为杜兰特短期之内不会求婚
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总的来说，杜兰特要夺冠的压力还没乐邦大，当然也是我詹作大死搞了个电视直播。阿杜这种级别的超巨现在要看清楚雷霆管理层，能不能在未来五年里帮你组建一个能拿冠军的队伍，不能的话就想好后路，公关做好点，一切都不是问题
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If Durant leaves, I'll leave the world
如果杜兰特离开，我就告别人世。
阿杜走吧。。。
铁杜没有冠军的黑点会一直在，即使去别的队组团也会被黑。还是在俄村圆梦吧。但是现在竞技状态不如mvp赛季的。最好的西布没遇上最好的铁杜
铁杜什么时候和瑞秋约过？完全不知道啊
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