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　　美国JRS之声
　　美国球迷热议NBA30支球队相当于五大联赛哪支足球俱乐部
　　Soccer equivalents of NBA franchises (self.nba)
　　足球俱乐部对应的NBA球队。
　　I thought this would be an interesting exercise, try to see which soccer club would be the equivalent of the NBA franchises. I couldn't figure it out for a lot of them though, since I only started following the NBA recently, but I'll do my best here. Also, feel free to correct and/or suggest clubs for the franchises I missed. (Apologies in advance for the people who don't follow European soccer).
　　我觉得这会是一个好玩的事情，就是看看足球俱乐部对应的NBA球队是哪些。我不太能说出太多这样的等价关系，因为我最近才开始关注NBA，但是我会尽全力去做。另外，大家可以纠正或者建议一些与NBA球队对应的足球俱乐部，如果我有哪里遗漏了的话。（对于那些不关心欧洲足坛的人，首先表示抱歉）。
　　Atlanta Hawks: Tottenham Hotspur. Both teams always perform well. Sometimes have superb seasons, have been home to superstars. Just can't seem to take the next step, and blew their best chance in years to make an impact recently.
　　亚特兰大老鹰：托特纳姆热刺足球俱乐部
　　两支球队总是表现的很出色，有时候会打出非常亮眼的赛季，也有过很多超级球星，但是就是不能有进一步的突破，在最近几年都有机会创造属于自己的传奇。
　　Boston Celtics: Liverpool. It's been a while since they were the dominant team in the league. Had a brief period of relevancy a few years ago, but are back to the middle of the pack now. Definitely on the up though, with a highly-rated coach.
　　波士顿凯尔特人：利物浦。距离他们上一次称霸联盟都已经过去很久了。在过去的一段时间中也曾短暂的重回巅峰，但是目前又回到了中流球队的水平。总之肯定处于上升期，都拥有一位非常棒的教练。
　　Brooklyn Nets: Fulham. Team is doing decently, even overachieving a couple of seasons. Then the management for some reason make terrible decisions with regards to coaching/players and the team nosepes. Both stuck in mediocrity as of now.
　　布鲁克林篮网：富勒姆足球俱乐部。两支球队都有过辉煌的时期，在好几个赛季的成绩都超出的预期，之后管理层对于教练和球员的人事安排做出了错误的决定，然后球队便走远了。现在都无法摆脱平庸。
　　Charlotte Hornets:
　　夏洛特黄蜂：暂无对应球队。
　　Chicago Bulls: Napoli. Had the GOAT play for them, and won titles with him, but then didn't touch those heights once he left. Rose back again with a superstar, but then let him go (for differing reasons, of course).
　　芝加哥公牛：那不勒斯足球俱乐部。曾经拥有历史上最伟大的球员为他们效力，并在他的带领下拿到了很多冠军，然而当他离开后便再也没有达到那样的高度。之后在新的超级球星加盟后再度崛起，可却没有选择留下他（当然是因为不同的原因）。
　　Cleveland Cavaliers: Paris Saint-Germain. Were completely irrelevant until a superstar decided to come to that team and the ownership surrounded him with talent. Now are the runaway favourites in their league/conference.
　　克利夫兰骑士：巴黎圣日耳曼足球俱乐部。本来是毫无竞争力的球队，直到一名超级球星选择了加入他们，然而管理者围绕着他搭配了不同的天赋，现在都是各自联赛里的领头羊。
　　Dallas Mavericks: AS Roma. Have a beloved one-club superstar on their team, but now that he's old, can't seem to find a consistent identity, falling short of expectations every season in recent times.
　　达拉斯小牛：罗马俱乐部。有一名俱乐部的元老球员，也是超级球星，但是现在他老了，却并不能找到他的接班人，最近的每一个赛季都打得不尽人意。
　　Denver Nuggets: West Bromwich Albion. Off the radar of everyone. Probably the team that is least talked about, good or bad.
　　丹佛掘金：西布罗姆维奇足球俱乐部。他们在每个人的讨论范围之外，也许是关注度最低的球队，不管是好是坏。
　　Detroit Pistons: Stoke City. Accused of playing a dirty/physical game (not without reason). Now considered a good team with a better style of play. Still not good enough to contend though, looking in from just outside the periphery.
　　底特律活塞：斯托克城足球俱乐部。两者都因为其强硬/肮脏的打法（并不是没有原因的）而被人指责。现在换了另一种稍微好一点的打法，也被认为是一支强队，只不过没有好到能够竞争总冠军，只是处在外围的球队。
　　Golden State Warriors: Manchester City. Were really crap for the longest while, but the loyal fans stuck through thick and thin. Became the powerhouses of the league seemingly overnight, and favourites for the title.
　　金州勇士：曼城队。在很长一段时间内都是鱼腩，但是他们的球迷始终不离不弃。在最近几年，好像一夜之间就成为了联盟里的超级球队，并成为总冠军最有力的竞争者。
　　Houston Rockets:
　　休斯顿火箭：暂无对应球队。
　　Indiana Pacers: Bayer Leverkusen. Both consistently good teams. Sometimes good enough to challenge at the top, but falling short in those seasons.
　　印第安纳步行者：勒沃库森足球俱乐部。一直以来都是强队，有时候强到能去挑战顶级强队，但是在最近几个赛季衰落了。
　　Los Angeles Clippers: Arsenal. Even if they are having a great season, you just know at the back of your mind that they are going to fuck it up somewhere down the line.
　　洛杉矶快船：阿森纳俱乐部。就算他们正在打出一个出色的赛季，在你的潜意识里，你还是认为他们在某个时间点里会阴沟翻船。
　　Los Angeles Lakers: Manchester United. Had an extended period of dominance under arguably the best coach of all time. Now back in a rebuilding phase. The general consensus is that even with their struggles, they'll be back at or near the top soon.
　　洛杉矶湖人：曼联足球俱乐部。在历史上最佳教练的执教下拥有过很长一段时间的统治期。现在则进入了重建时期，但是舆论仍然认为虽然他们现在打得很挣扎，然而过不了不多就会重回巅峰。
　　Memphis Grizzlies:
　　孟菲斯灰熊：暂无对应球队。
　　Miami Heat: Inter Milan. Had a couple of seasons where they were the villain and won everything in sight. Once that team broke up, went down from those heights, and right now are in a rebuilding phase.
　　迈阿密热火：国际米兰足球俱乐部。有过几个赛季，他们被所有人认为是反派，也赢得了能够赢得所有奖杯，但是一旦球队分崩离析，便跌落神坛，现在正在重建当中。
　　Milwaukee Bucks: Torino. Have a squad of young players and a good coach. Still not competitive though, and have a potentially transcendental player in their squad.
　　密尔沃基雄鹿队：都灵足球俱乐部。拥有一群年轻的球员和一位出色的教练，但是仍然竞争力不足，而且有一位极具潜力的超新星在阵中。
　　Minnesota Timberwolves: Borussia Dortmund. there can't be an exact comparison with the Wolves, because every soccer team with potential superstar young players are teams contending right now. Therefore, I think that Dortmund under Jurgen Kopp at the beginning of his tenure at the club is the best match. Both up and coming teams with lots of young talent who upset the status quo within a few years.
　　明尼苏达森林狼：多特蒙德。这个对比不太恰当，因为现在基本上每个拥有很多有潜力年轻球员的足球俱乐部都属于争冠的球队。所以说，我认为尤尔根-科普刚刚在多特蒙德开启自己的任期让这个对比显得最有道理。两支球队都属于重建期，都拥有很多年轻的天赋，在未来的几年里将会彻底改变目前的境地。
　　New Orleans Pelicans: West Ham United. Have a genuine world-class player, but the players around him got injured and made the team look worse than it actually is. Even with everyone fit though, still not a top-tier team though.
　　新奥尔良鹈鹕：西汉姆联足球俱乐部。拥有一名世界顶级的运动员，但是他周围的队友们却都受伤了，让这支球队看上去比真实情况要糟糕很多，就算每个人都健康回来后，仍然不是一支顶级的球队。
　　New York Knicks: England National Team. Every year begins with a renewed sense of hope that this is the season that the team will be good. After another underwhelming start for the umpteenth time, the fans resort to what they do best - start making self-deprecating jokes over how the team exists solely to shatter their expectations and that they were stupid to believe in it anyway. Bonus points for the existence of a boy wonder in both teams who is expected to lead them to the promised land.
　　纽约尼克斯：英格兰国家队。每年在赛季开始时两支球队都好像看到了复兴的希望，但是再经历了一个又一个不如人意的开端后，球迷们便开始自嘲――相信这支球队真是最愚蠢的选择。不过好的一面是，两支球队都有一名出色的年轻人，承载着复兴球队的希望。
　　Oklahoma City Thunder:
　　俄克拉荷马雷霆：暂无对应球队。
　　Orlando Magic:
　　奥兰多魔术：暂无对应球队。
　　Philadelphia 76ers: Southampton. Spent a while in purgatory hell. Now have a couple of pieces to make them relevant again, and maybe considered a challenger few years down the line, if the young players pan out.
　　费城76人：南安普顿足球俱乐部。都经历过一段非常黑暗的重建期，现在拥有了好几块能让他们重新崛起的拼图，也许几年之后会被认为是冠军挑战者，如果这些年轻人都能打出来的话。
　　Phoenix Suns:
　　菲尼克斯太阳：暂无对应球队。
　　Portland Trail Blazers: Everton. Never quite seem to make the jump to the next tier, despite the squad being believed to be good enough to do so. People downplay their good seasons as overachieving, and their not-so-good seasons as par for the course.
　　波特兰开拓者：埃弗顿足球俱乐部。从来没有真正完成过一次突破，尽管拥有足够好的球员。当他们打出一个出色的赛季时，人们总认为这是超水平的表现；而当他们经历了一个不太好的赛季时，人们会认为理所当然。
　　Sacramento Kings: Sunderland. Haven't been competitive for a long time, with the future outlook not too bright either. (At least Kings have a superstar with which to have a chance though. Sunderland don't even have that going for them.)
　　萨克拉门托国王：桑德兰足球俱乐部。已经失去竞争力很久了，未来也不那么光明。（最起码国王还拥有一名超级球星，让未来看上去还有一丝丝机会，而桑德兰什么都没有）。
　　San Antonio Spurs: Bayern Munich. The organization is put forward as a model of consistency. Credited with always competing in spite of roster/coaching (in the case of Bayern) turnover. Manchester United under Sir Alex Ferguson is the closest comparison to the current Spurs organization. 20 years of consistency along with multiple one-club legends.
　　圣安东尼奥马刺：拜仁慕尼黑。他们俩都是持久性的典型，就算球员/教练（拜仁慕尼黑的情况）出了一些差错，他们仍然能保持竞争力，也因为这一点他们受到了极大的赞赏。弗格森手下的那支曼联是和目前马刺最类似的球队。都保持了20年以上的竞争力，并培养出了很多俱乐部传奇球星。
　　Toronto Raptors: Atletico Madrid. Have the reputation of a scrappy team, giving every team a fight and never giving up. Have a couple of star players of their own. Almost always seem to fall short at the last hurdle against the best team(s) in their league.
　　多伦多猛龙：马德里竞技。拥有强队的美誉，不管遇到哪支球队都全力以赴，从不放弃。也拥有自己培养出来的一些球星，但是总是在最后与联盟顶级强队的较量中落败。
　　Utah Jazz: Villareal. Both have had a couple of generational talents in their team. Have had periods of close shaves of winning the title, and periods of irrelevance. Both are teams that are today considered to be really good and in the next tier after the best teams.
　　犹他爵士：维拉利尔足球俱乐部。两者都曾经拥有过跨时代的巨星，并在一段时间内非常有机会拿到冠军，也曾在一段时间内完全沦为鱼腩。不过现在两支球队都被认为是强队，并属于紧挨着第一梯队的那些球队。
　　Washington Wizards:
　　华盛顿奇才：暂无对应球队。
　　PS: I realize that it's hard to come up with a one-to-one equivalent, mostly because of the different ways the leagues are set up, but this is what I could come up with.、
　　PS：我发现要把联盟所有球队和足球俱乐部一一对应起来很来，主要原因是NBA和足球联赛的组成方式不太一样，但是以上就是我能想到的所有了。
　　[C]Magicrsdio 162 指 1 天前
　　Atlanta: Atalanta. Very similar names. Probably other stuff too.
　　亚特兰大老鹰：亚特兰大足球俱乐部。几乎一样的名字，也许其他的方面也很相似。
　　[C][SAS] Boban MarjanovicSean88888 5 指 1 天前
　　I believe they're both named after Atalanta, which is a Greek goddess or something
　　我相信他们都是以亚特兰大这个人命名的，他是个古希腊的神，或者是类似的人物。
　　[C]KnicksFromLatviaWithLove 67 指 1 天前
　　England is such a perfect comparison for the Knicks that I think we need to include international comparisons (coming from a English Knicks fan)
　　英格兰国家队能够完美的对应尼克斯，我觉得你这个名单应该包含国家队才好（来自一个尼克斯加英格兰的球迷）。
　　[C]parag14[S] 10 指 1 天前
　　Whoa that is absolutely perfect, I didn't even think of that. I'll edit it once I get back home.
　　喔，这个想法非常棒，我甚至都没有想到这些，回家后我会立马列出我心目中的对应关系。
　　[C]SpursCokeSniffa 40 指 1 天前
　　Clippers - even if they are having a great season, you know at the back of your mind they are gonna fuck up somewhere.
　　洛杉矶快船――就算他们正在打出一个出色的赛季，在你的潜意识里，你还是认为他们在某个时间点里会阴沟翻船。
　　[C]San Diego Clipperschigginz27 6 指 22小r前
　　Clippers as Arsenal is a great comparison.
　　快船与阿森纳是个非常棒的对应。
　　[C]extrakrispy 72 指 1 天前
　　The Cavs = Real Madrid comparison is a little bit of a stretch. Real is the most storied club in world soccer and the Cavs have just recently won their first ever title. They also splash like crazy on superstars. The Celtics, even if they arent very good, would probably be a better comparison.
　　骑士=皇家马德里显得有些牵强，皇家马德里是足球中历史最悠久，荣誉最多的俱乐部之一，而骑士才刚刚拿下了队史上第一座总冠军。而且在超级球星加盟数上，他们俩也差的很远。凯尔特人，就算他们现在不是很强，相对于皇家马德里来说，也会是个更好的对应。
　　[C]Mavericksmvnvel 20 指 1 天前
　　the Lakers are more Real than anyone tbh
　　事实上，湖人比任何一支其他球队都能更合适的去对应皇家马德里。
　　[C][BOS] Isaiah Thomaspapi617 6 指 17小r前
　　What a coincidence! I just happen to hate both teams
　　哈哈哈，多么棒的一个巧合，这两支球队我都憎恨。
　　[C]parag14[S] 8 指 1 天前
　　I would agree that it's a bit of a stretch. The reason I didn't compare them with the Celtics is that they are not contenders right now, while the Cavs and Madrid are. Also, I saw the similarities between LeBron and Ronaldo, and ran with it. :-P
　　我却觉得这个对应有点牵强，我不会把凯尔特人作为皇家马德里的对应球队的原因是，凯尔特人现在已经不属于争冠球队了，然而骑士却属于。另外，勒布朗和C罗有着非常多的相似点，所以我选择骑士。
　　Also, the best comparison to Real would be a franchise who has historically and currently always been a contender in the NBA, and there's no one franchise that fits it right now.
　　不过最适合去对比皇家马德里的NBA球队应该是在历史上一直保持夺冠实力的一支球队，而目前没有哪一只NBA球队能够一直做到这点。
　　[C][LAC] Chris PaulOptism 19 指 1 天前
　　Popovich is Sir Alex Ferguson
　　波波维奇就是篮球界的弗格森。
　　[C]WarriorsButtMuddBrookss 33 指 1 天前
　　Real Madrid is either the celtics or lakers
　　皇家马德里应该对应湖人或者凯尔特人。
　　[C]gana04 3 指 1 天前
　　Except Real is at the top right now, neither Celtics or Lakers can say that. I like his choices, MU and Liverpool were legit top of the premier league for quite a while and now are rebuilding.
　　只不过皇家马德里现在仍然是争冠球队，而凯尔特人和湖人都不是了。我喜欢楼主的选择，曼联和利物浦之前都统治过联赛一段时间，而现在他们都在重建。
　　[C][LAC] Cole AldrichGelatoCube 3 指 1 天前
　　Real would be the Lakers if there wasn't a salary cap, simply put. Free agents would flock cause they have the most money and name recognition, and they would have a once in a generation talent who played for a popular team and jumped ship, so wilt from Philly and ronaldo to real. Keep in mind I don't follow soccer, so please feel free to correct me
　　如果NBA没有工资帽，那么皇家马德里最好的对应无疑是湖人。自由球员会像潮水一样涌向湖人，因为湖人有着最多的钱和最大的名气。而且历史上都有过曾经为一支很受欢迎球队效力的传奇巨星转而加盟了湖人/皇家马德里，就像张伯伦从76人转会以及大罗转会到皇马一样。不过我其实不关注足球，所以如果哪里说错了请纠正我。
　　[C]Yeezyjuice 12 指 1 天前
　　The cavs are not real Madrid they have no past history or anything similar to Madrid other than they have a great player. The Celtics are the perfect equivalent to real Madrid, I think the cavs equivalent is Leicester city they won the premier league defying the odds first time winning it too just like the cavs.
　　骑士可不是NBA的皇马，除了都拥有一位非常出色的球员外，它根本没有类似皇马辉煌的历史。凯尔特人才是皇马完美的对应，我觉得和骑士最类似的足球俱乐部应该是莱切斯特城，他们也在大家都不看好的情况下赢得了第一座联赛冠军，这一点很像骑士。
　　[C]Thunder Bandwagonvfene 5 指 1 天前
　　but we knew the Cavs were one of the best teams, with some of the best players, we just didn't think they could beat the Warriors, whereas LCFC in the Premier League were expected to be relegated
　　但是大家都知道骑士是NBA最强的球队之一，我们只是认为他们不可能击败勇士罢了，而莱切斯特城在一开始的时候则被认为是一支处于保级边缘的球队。
　　[C]johncenatbh 32 指 1 天前
　　Spurs under Pop = United under Ferguson
　　Had one coach/manager for 20+ years
　　Had players playing for them their entire careers, model of consistency, United never finished below 3rd and Spurs havnet missed the playoffs, every year contenders despite people saying they will drop off.
　　Duncan, Ginobili, Parker = Giggs, Scholes, Neville
　　波波维奇手下的马刺=弗格森手下的曼联。
　　在超过20年的时间里拥有同一位教练/总经理。
　　拥有为其奉献全部职业生涯的球员，是保持竞争力的典型例子，曼联从来没有低于过联赛第3，马刺从来没有掉出季后赛，每年他们都能够去最终竞争总冠军，尽管大家都认为他们会衰落。
　　邓肯，吉诺比利，帕克=吉格斯，斯科尔斯，内维尔。
　　[C]parag14[S] 8 指 1 天前
　　That was the perfect example, IMO. I didn't put it because that was a while ago, and United are not the same anymore. I wanted to compare current states of the franchises. I guess I can still put it up as an edit.
　　在我看来，马刺对应曼联是一个完美的对应。我没有写出来是因为曼联已经不是过去那支曼联了。我想要找出目前这支曼联所能对应的NBA球队，不过我觉得这还是可以作为参考的。
　　[C][GSW] Jason RichardsonTheCleanRhino 18 指 1 天前
　　It would have been more true last year but the 76ers would be an MLS team lol
　　我觉得去年这个比喻更恰当，但是76人更像是一支美国职业足球大联盟的球队，哈哈哈。
　　[C]Magicrsdio 6 指 1 天前
　　It's still true. MLS is the only league with draft picks to tank for.
　　现在也仍然是对的，美国职业足球大联盟是唯一一个肯定能够通过摆烂而取得选秀顺位的联盟。
　　[C][GSW] Draymond Greenleechinann 9 指 1 天前
　　Sacramento Kings is pretty similar to Sunderland in the sense that they are both run by absolutely absurd management and they almost never seem to find a sense of continuity with theiir head coaches and managers
　　国王确实和桑德兰足球俱乐部有点像，他们的管理层都非常糟糕，而且似乎从来都没有找到能够持续下去的主教练和总经理。
　　[C]Maverickshlolli_banani 7 指 1 天前
　　Maybe Cavs should be PSG? PSG didn't win the league for a 20 year period until a couple of years ago, and now they've been dominating it the last couple years. And even though Ibrahimovich isn't playing for them anymore, I can see some parallels between him and Lebron.
　　也许骑士才应该是NBA的巴黎圣日耳曼？巴黎圣日耳曼在过去20多年间都没有赢下一座联赛冠军，直到几年前才取得突破，之后他们便一直延续了统治的趋势。尽管伊布拉希莫维奇现在不再为巴黎圣日耳曼效力了，我仍然能看到他和勒布朗之间的相似点。
　　[C]Maverickshlolli_banani 5 指 1 天前
　　Nets could be Fulham. Team is doing alright then new owner comes in and wrecks everything. Both teams have had better days.
　　篮网和富勒姆足球俱乐部很像。他们本来都打得非常出色，直到新的老板降临，然后搞砸了一切，两支球队都有过辉煌的过去。
　　[C]LakersBraveFencerMusashi 3 指 1 天前
　　What about Chelsea?
　　那么切尔西呢？
　　[C]Lakersdreezyyyy 2 指 1 天前
　　Chelsea should be the Warriors. Came off a league championship in
and then couldn't repeat what they did the next. Also Chelsea fanbase is recognized as one of the top 5 teams with the most bandwagon fans hahaha
　　切尔西应该是足坛中的金州勇士。在2014-15赛季取得联赛冠军后，他们没能在下一年中卫冕。同时切尔西的球迷数量也被认为是俱乐部中前五的，并拥有最多的赢球蜜，哈哈哈。
　　[C]parag14[S] 2 指 1 天前
　　Yeah that's the closest comparison with respect to Chelsea. But I think that City is a better comparison to the Warriors than Chelsea. I mean Chelsea were in relegation form halfway through 15-16 lol. Safe to say Warriors were the complete opposite.
　　是的，勇士是与切尔西最相似的NBA球队了。但是我还是觉得那个什么城更适合勇士，因为直到15-16赛季过了一半后，切尔西都是一盘散沙。而显然勇士则完全相反。
　　[C]Bullsscottishere 2 指 1 天前
　　Chelsea is definitely GSW, because fuck Chelsea!
　　切尔西显然就是足坛的金州勇士，因为“去他娘的切尔西”。
　　Draymond = Costa
　　追梦格林=科斯塔。
　　注：日，英足总在官方网站上宣布因为在联赛杯半决赛次回合踩踏利物浦中卫埃姆雷-詹，科斯塔将被禁赛3场国内赛事，处罚即刻生效，也就意味着，科斯塔无缘周末大战曼城，以及接下来与维拉、埃弗顿的英超联赛。
　　[C][LAC] Lamar OdomUmbricon 3 指 1 天前
　　I would actually say the Spurs' closest comp would be Barcelona. Ignoring Pop for a second, both are clubs that have had extended dynasties with really no sign of slowing down due to playing an iconic, revolutionary style.
　　我其实觉得巴塞罗那最应该对应的是马刺。先忽略波波维奇一会儿，因为他们标志性的，革新性的打法，两个俱乐部的统治力都一直延续了很长的时间，而且根本没有衰落的迹象。
　　[C]Lakersliverpool_lakers 3 指 1 天前*
　　My two favorite teams are the equivalent to my two most hated teams. I want to throw up
　　两支我最喜欢的球队对应的球队却是我最讨厌的，我不想看了。
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